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Post by randx0 on Apr 8, 2011 3:35:42 GMT -5
I guess I missed the press release I never really heard how good these are at actual off roading. I only see them dropping kids off at school. was there much carry over from the h1 hummers?Also I don't see them in the magazines except for blinged out city dwellers. your thoughts ,experiences or first hand knowledge would be appreciated.
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Post by jeffs396 on Apr 8, 2011 5:48:06 GMT -5
No carryover from the Humvee/H1 Randy, except for the "look". The H2 is based on the Suburban, H3 on the Colorado. Can be modded just like any factory 4 X 4, but most see soccer mom or gang leader transportation duties ;D
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Post by wtsf150 on Apr 8, 2011 6:50:20 GMT -5
I happen to have an H3 and love it mind you its not made for rock crawling but she proved herself this past winter in the snow and even on some very mild trails its to me just too expensive to try and use it as a hard core off-roader and yes i have thought about lifting it some and yes adding some "bling" i allmost have to do it after all it is a Hummer LOL Willie
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Post by randx0 on Apr 8, 2011 22:57:49 GMT -5
Thanks guys,kinda what I expected but I wasn't sure.now that you mention it I don't see a lot of colorado or subs doing trail time either.
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Post by mdmead on Apr 8, 2011 23:09:23 GMT -5
In my opinion...
The positives are that the H2 & H3 have improved the GM platforms they are based on and made them into credible off-roaders. And since they are GM drivetrains, most parts are readily available and pretty dependable.
The negatives are they are way too expensive for most to actually take them off road and that the GM front suspension isn't ideal for serious off-road use even in beefed up form with the limited travel IFS. Also, the visibility looks to be poor on the H3s. (Don't understand it... same with the latest Toyota FJ.)
I'm not a Jeep guy by any means, but why would I buy anything except a Jeep JK if I wanted a new(er), off-road worthy vehicle? As far as I can tell, it is the best value and most capable.
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Post by wtsf150 on Apr 8, 2011 23:59:12 GMT -5
Matt i'll agree 100% on the visibility thing thats about the only thing im still trying to get used to on mine those little bitty windows do make it hard sometimes as far as price goes my Hummer was far cheaper than a Jeep i did want the Jeep i really wanted an F-350 but those prices were way out of my league LOL i have to admit i am very impressed by my Hummer and i'm a Ford guy Willie
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Post by mdmead on Apr 9, 2011 11:33:49 GMT -5
I hear you on the F-350 prices. I'd like a V-10 (or now the new 6.2 V-8) crew cab 4x4 longbed to replace my '99 V-10 F-250 extended cab 4x4 longbox.... but can't wrap my head around the price! (And the gas engine is significantly cheaper than the diesel model!)
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Post by wtsf150 on Apr 9, 2011 14:54:24 GMT -5
I hear ya about the diesel how does that V-10 do i know its a gas hog cause im thinking of getting in a couple of years an older Excursion but thats after the H3 is paid for i wanted the crew cab diesel but like we both said those prices the deal i got for the Hummer was awesome its a 2006 model i got it for allmost 3 grand less than book and it only had a little over 16,000 miles on it BTW i bought it last Feb. about my only complaint (other than it only having a 5 cylinder would have at least liked it to have a V-6) are those "mailslot" windows looks cool though Willie
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Post by mdmead on Apr 9, 2011 21:22:55 GMT -5
Pardon the topic deviation... I like the V-10 just fine. If you tow heavy loads often, the diesel will make it easier. For the occassional heavy loads I tow, I can stand to be a little slower on the uphills. Solo mileage (w/4.30 gears) runs about 11.5 with a mix of in town and highway. I've seen 13-14 mpg at a steady 50-55 mph cruise, but I don't do that often. Towing I do 9-10. Ford's modular engines, at least the earlier ones, are known to pop sparkplugs. Not a cheap fix from what I understand, but the repair is stronger than original. It doesn't happen to everyone and it hasn't happened to me (knock on wood). I've got 144K miles on mine.
My brother is considering a 5 cylinder Colorado... although he is leaning towards the V-8. He sometimes tows a pop-up tent trailer and a loaded 4-place PWC trailer? Your thoughts?
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Post by Clay on Apr 13, 2011 20:20:29 GMT -5
You think the blind spots are horrible in those? Try driving an up armored humvee with flak and Kevlar. It is very hard to see. Thats why we always have another person with us, cause we can't see jack.
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Post by kifaru on May 14, 2011 14:31:39 GMT -5
At least in the HMMWV, there is a reason for the armored car look--because it is. I'm puzzled why it seems to be the style now on many SUVs. Even the new JK Wranglers have noticeably less visibility than previous models. A high beltline may help to increase side-impact safety if the doors are designed for that (not sure the Wrangler's are). However, it does greatly reduce visibility, especially rearward visibility in the H2/3s (Right rear corner visibility is a bear in those things. Speaking of bears, a 1,600 lb. Alaskan Grizzly could sneak up in that huge blind spot, and you'd never see it coming). But I think it's done just for style reasons more than anything. I'm also starting to suspect it's just to sell more backup cameras off the options list
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